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I've read Ministry Mutiny 2 times, and reading it a third time, I think it's that good. However, having a little trouble with the implementation side. Also reading Simple Student Ministry, love the concept, but don't see the implementation side. I've given all my adult leaders, Sr. Pastor, Sunday School teachers, SS Director, Chairman of Deacons Ministry Mutiny and they all read it and loved it.
Now it comes time for planning...and that's where I'm stuck. Has anyone else implemented this (these) strategy(ies) that can help me out with some suggestions, philosophies, skeletal structures...anything!

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0 Votes Great question and a great book. Tim is right, the idea of Ministry Mutiny to give you a fresh and new perspective on Youth Ministry. I have implemented the ideas in Ministry Mutiny into a Youth Ministry setting and the Deep & Wide thesis that Tim attached below is another great resource in beginning implementation. Additionally, I work for Dare 2 Share and one of my roles in coaching/consulting Youth Leaders who want to implement Deep & Wide Youth Ministry into their personal ministry setting. I am more than happy to spend some time learning about your ministry and what D&W / MM prinicples can look like for you. Shoot me an email if you'd like to get the dialogue started: jasonlamb@dare2share.org Also, check out the blog below. Link Details: Deep & Wide blog 2 years ago by Jason Lamb 2 years ago by Jason Lamb 2 years ago
0 Votes I agree with Tim. Its more of a goal that you aim for but the pray for guidance on how your ministry should be set up. It sounds like you need to do what I call a Clean Slate Session. If you want some help just let me know I can always lend an ear. just send me a message and we can connect. by STORM 2 years ago by STORM 2 years ago
0 Votes I'm not sure the point of either of those books is to give you a new system of how to DO ministry -- they're geared more toward what your ministry should BE. i.e. focused, aligned, movement, simplicity, growing deep, going wide. Those should be core values of your ministry, not individual programs. In other words, everything you're already doing in ministry should be evaluated in context of those of those values. The vision/strategy of my ministry is to go Deep & Wide. If you haven't read Greg's thesis about it, maybe that will help. I've linked to it below. Link Details: Deep and Wide Ministry Thesis 2 years ago by Tim Sch... 2 years ago by Tim Schmoyer 2 years ago
0 Votes that's great that you have the church staff reading with you and brainstorming with you. i wish i could do that with our staff. from the past, i've noticed that books are great for some ideas, but the best thing to do is to study your context. not everything you read in a book applies to your context, and that becomes problematic. most books will challenge you to try their method, but do not realize that you have a different ministry. the best advice i can give is to study your students and your ministry strength and weaksness. after that make adjustments and risk doing new things and see which works for your group. iam currently reading two of greg's books also. blessings by Ronel B... 2 years ago by Ronel Borromeo 2 years ago
0 Votes I think that book reading is great and it stretches us. I am fearful that many Christians today spend more time in books trying to implement, figure out a strategy, pattern after, etc...INSTEAD we should be reading God's Word and patterning ourselves after the new Testament Church. Don't get me wrong, I am not against book learning, and your desire to read and grow and be challenged, but fear that books are used more than God's Word and prayer. As Pastor E said, be and do...programs don't build relationships, people do (you) and through prayer, GOD grows numbers (physically and spiritually) by Pastor Joe 2 years ago by Pastor Joe 2 years ago
0 Votes Just teach and do. Being a christian is a lifestyle not a program or a strategy from a book. by pastor e 2 years ago by pastor e 2 years ago

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Great question and a great book. Tim is right, the idea of Ministry Mutiny to give you a fresh and new perspective on Youth Ministry. I have implemented the ideas in Ministry Mutiny into a Youth Ministry setting and the Deep & Wide thesis that Tim attached below is another great resource in beginning implementation.

Additionally, I work for Dare 2 Share and one of my roles in coaching/consulting Youth Leaders who want to implement Deep & Wide Youth Ministry into their personal ministry setting. I am more than happy to spend some time learning about your ministry and what D&W / MM prinicples can look like for you. Shoot me an email if you'd like to get the dialogue started: jasonlamb@dare2share.org

Also, check out the blog below.

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Deep & Wide blog

2 years ago

Jason Lamb

2 years ago

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I agree with Tim. Its more of a goal that you aim for but the pray for guidance on how your ministry should be set up.

It sounds like you need to do what I call a Clean Slate Session. If you want some help just let me know I can always lend an ear. just send me a message and we can connect.

STORM

2 years ago

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I'm not sure the point of either of those books is to give you a new system of how to DO ministry -- they're geared more toward what your ministry should BE. i.e. focused, aligned, movement, simplicity, growing deep, going wide. Those should be core values of your ministry, not individual programs. In other words, everything you're already doing in ministry should be evaluated in context of those of those values.

The vision/strategy of my ministry is to go Deep & Wide. If you haven't read Greg's thesis about it, maybe that will help. I've linked to it below.

Link Details:

Deep and Wide Ministry Thesis

2 years ago

Tim Sch...

2 years ago

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that's great that you have the church staff reading with you and brainstorming with you. i wish i could do that with our staff.

from the past, i've noticed that books are great for some ideas, but the best thing to do is to study your context. not everything you read in a book applies to your context, and that becomes problematic. most books will challenge you to try their method, but do not realize that you have a different ministry.

the best advice i can give is to study your students and your ministry strength and weaksness. after that make adjustments and risk doing new things and see which works for your group.

iam currently reading two of greg's books also.

blessings

Ronel B...

2 years ago

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I think that book reading is great and it stretches us. I am fearful that many Christians today spend more time in books trying to implement, figure out a strategy, pattern after, etc...INSTEAD we should be reading God's Word and patterning ourselves after the new Testament Church. Don't get me wrong, I am not against book learning, and your desire to read and grow and be challenged, but fear that books are used more than God's Word and prayer. As Pastor E said, be and do...programs don't build relationships, people do (you) and through prayer, GOD grows numbers (physically and spiritually)

Pastor Joe

2 years ago

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Just teach and do. Being a christian is a lifestyle not a program or a strategy from a book.

pastor e

2 years ago

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