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never unless you absolutely have to, like pastor e. Middle school are concrete leaners they see things black and white and still are developing where as High schoolers are abstract thinkers and they tend to learn way differently. Middle schoolers will always want to be with High schoolers but High schoolers honestly want nothing to do with Middle schoolers. It is a ministry killer. Your jr high will be good but your high school suufferes in the end. Mostly your Juniors and Seniors will take a hike.

Plus you don't want 18 year old dudes hangin out with 12-13 year old girls. Bad mix that you end up having to answer for later.

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Well I have been in both. My current ministry (1 month in) is all together all the time. My former ministry was split 90%of the time.

As far as SH being leaders to the JH I agree but disagree at the same time. I think we need to put those students that are leaders in with JH and let them lead but those that are not leaders or are leading in the wrong direction don't need to be with JH students.

we are in the process of moving JH and SH to separate times and places for several reasons. The biggest is depth and topic of teaching. The other is maturity levels. I also think it hinders numeric growth of both groups to have them together.

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I'm similar to Pastor E. Mine are together for now. My long-term vision is to have our small groups (currently just boys/girls) to be JH boys, JH girls, HS boys, HS girls) but we've got to get kids coming more consistently and I've got to get our adult leaders out of the mentality that they are here to fill an adult ratio requirement and that they are here to serve, interact, and build relationships.

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Our midweek program looks like this. We come together (7-12) for worship, game, announcements, etc. After worship, we split our group into 7-8 and 9-12. Middle School is going through the whole bible, one year in NT one year in OT. When students get to High school, they have gotten overview of whole of God's Word, so we teach theological concepts, still do book studies but more in depth, etc. It works well. And they are together enough for HS to have some leadership with the MS students

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We split our groups into 2 groups, 6-8 & 9-12th. Our services are on Sunday night with Middle School having worship at 5 while the Sr Highers have small group and then we switch at 6:30. This has worked out great for us. We are slowly splitting the groups more and more but for right now, most of our activities are still MS and HS. All our ministry teams are both groups also, so there is still a good amount of interactions between the two.

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We are 7-12. The main reason is I can't find anyone to come up and sit, so finding someone to teach is almost ridiculous. I wish we could break up and I can see how it would be great to be able to, we just don't have the manpower.

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Our junior high and senior high are together but I do find it hard to take the conversation really deep because the junior high kids who speak up tend to bring the conversation down to their level and that tends to frustrate the senior high kids who want to have a deeper conversation about spiritual or biblical matters. But when it's just me doing most of the talking (preaching/teaching) without too much dialog back and forth, I try to keep the conversation at a level that fits both groups. It's a tough balance.

I'm very interested in this topic and would like to hear from others on this. Our group is small and we have them together for many reasons but there are many in our church (not parents) who don't like to have them mixed.

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Our Sunday Night is joint sr. and jr., but wednesdays is just for sr. high. Jr. Highers need to be around Sr. Highers for them to be able to be leaders to them, and I think its good for sr. highers to be around jr. highers and out of their comfort zone if they dont like it. But we seperate mid-week because at some point I want the kids to go deeper and not stay at jr. high level.