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Im a Brit, in the UK drinking is not a taboo. In fact the local pub (bar) is the centre of most communities so is you want to reach your community the local is the best place to start. In fact a lot of the YPs and parents I work with can be found in the pubs on a Friday/Saturday evening. Other then my own person issues, there is no cultural reasons for me not to drink.
Like one of the other guys, I'm a beer snob like some people are coffee snobs.
I'm a drinker. I'm actually a beer snob :) Haha. I think there's nothing wrong with it and neither does our denomination. I think the correlation of "not causing a brother to stumble" is within the context of me knowing a friend has a problem with alcohol, in that case, I distance myself from alcohol, bars, the whole 9 yards.
I have no problem with it. I won't have much, but I'll have a drink here and there. Certainly if you have a drinking problem, drink to avoid reality, or are around someone who may be tempted to drink if you do (and that person is also undecided how they feel about drinking or feels that it's wrong), then you obviously should not have that drink. The other big thing is that if you feel it's wrong, than you certainly shouldn't because it violates our conscious.
I think the best witness I can be for people is to be human. I would think drinking in HUGE moderation should be an ok thought. Some of the best conversations I have had with non believers is over a beer sitting on their porch. It makes me feel like I can better relate to them if I am real enough to have A beer with them. Stuffy Christians I think are a huge turn off for me. I would rather see us be the guilty humans we are rather then pretend to be something we are not. Anything done to excess can be bad... but things done in moderation can be ok.
I honestly struggled with joining the C&MA because of their ban on drinking. Overall, I think that a denominational ban on it is pure legalism. There is absolutely no biblical command to not drink, and, yes, I think that Jesus set that example for us.
To be clear the C&MA doesn't ban drinking. It does not allow drinking for their pastors in America but it doesn't ban drinking.
Yes I drink, and while I'm not openly vocal about it (because why would I be?) some of my kids do know that I drink. They've been to my house, they've seen the beer in the fridge.
Alright, someone's gotta be on the other side of the debate. I'm for drinking! Never thought I would say it quite like that...
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(Please make debates a statement we can agree or disagree with. It's confusing to agree or disagree with a question.)
I agree with the previous two posters and this is something I struggle with because my assistant does drink socially. I have never found the taste to be great or the amount of money to be worth it. I believe when it comes to drinking it is about being dependent on something other than God to make us feel better.
You could, wasn't saying that is the only reason. I personally like to ride rollercoasters, love the feeling but I don't do it to feel better or to forget my life. I grew up with an alcoholic father, so I know what it does to you. I have two brothers who have gotten into drinking as well. I have seen the bad side.
But couldn't you make that same application to everything else we do for fun? You can say the same thing about rollercoasters: We ride them because they make us feel good.
I agree with pjwong's thoughts above but would add we must look at how it is viewed in society, not just whether we feel it is right or wrong.
Could you explain stumbling? If someone doesn't like it, or thinks it's wrong and you drink anyway, does that really cause them to stumble? Is that what you're referring to?
i dont see anything wrong with drinking socially.. however... i don't because i work with kids.
"using the law as an excuse is a poor one"??? Do you not drive a car because those under sixteen can't drive...it may tempt them to see you drive.
Don't drink. I don't want our youth to grow up drinking, nor my kids so I don't. To me, anything that can become an addiction or can cause pain, harm or death to someone else should be abstained from by christians especially. The whole "drink responsibly" is just funny to me. As long as you're in your home is nothing off limits? I heard Ron Jeremy talking about porn being helpful to marriages (rekindling a spark). Maybe if done in moderation, but what about when it becomes more...an escape and a haven? Is it allright to cuss as long as it's in moderation? World is full of temptations & I don't need to add any more. I don't shun drinkers, God loves them the way they are, but refuses to leave them that way.
leaders in the church think they're being good examples by showing "responsible drinking". It's sad to see how far we as a church have fallen. If I ever knew of my Pastor or my kid's youth pastor drinking, I would resign all positions and move to another church. Once again, I'm not saying I'm better than anyone else, but I don't want bad examples set for my kids. If someone sees you drinking, responsibly or not, that is your example and your witness. One, who is not as "controlled" as you, might not know their limits. Well, then it's their fault...but it was your "witness." I'll go ahead and throw this out there as well, did Jesus drink wine, yes. He also didn't have a home, traveled the streets, spoke truths to whoever would hear (popular or not), and was crucified. How many of those actions have we also taken on?
I know that the Bible says drinking in moderation is okay but I like to think? How would i feel if I walked into a bar and I had a beer in my hand, would you honestly think I lead my life as Spiritually as possible? No. If I saw Jesus with a beer I probably wouldn't be a Christian, I would lose my faith that he would drop to our level. So I try to maintain a high level day in and day out.
If I walked into a bar and I had a beer in my hand I would just join you. It would make no difference how I saw your Spiritually. I think this is a cultural issue more then spitual
This scares me.
I don't think you should just because it can affect your witness to others.
I disagree because the bible speaks against it. Plus it's bad for people's health. and it gives bad testimony.
Apart from getting drunk, which is drinking too much, where does the bible prohibit all alcohol?
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